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Postprzez KaRi 03 Maj 2011, 18:23

reklama
Tak pozostań przy tej. Zadbaj o dobrą wentylację w obudowie (wentyle z przodu z tyłu i u góry najlepiej) i będzie na pewno ok ;)
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Postprzez floyd5 03 Maj 2011, 18:23

Gradik napisał(a):Po prostu przeglądając wszystkie fotki spodziewałem się, że właśnie ustawienie wentylatorami do góry jest właściwie, nie spodziewałem się, że jest na odwrót :P

Po prostu dół karty jest ciekawszy i więcej mówi o jakości chłodzenia :wink:

Gradik napisał(a):Czyli mam pozostać przy tej karcie graficznej tak? Na pewno do 1000zł nie dostanę wydajniejszej/z większym potencjałem OC?

Bezpośrednim konkurentem Radeona 6950 jest GeForce 570, ale nieźle chłodzone zaczynają się od 1150zł, a Radeona można modować dzięki czemu IMO jest lepszym wyborem.
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Postprzez KaRi 03 Maj 2011, 18:25

floyd5, chyba 6970... tylko po małych modyfikacjach 6950 jest na poziomie 6970, więc w tym momencie zakup 570 jak i 6970 gdy modowanie wchodzi w gre jest czysto nieopłacalny ;)
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Postprzez floyd5 03 Maj 2011, 18:41

KaRi napisał(a):floyd5, chyba 6970...

Jak patrzyłem po testach raz wydajniejszy jest 6950 raz Geforce 570 i są na dość zbliżonym poziomie.
KaRi napisał(a):tylko po małych modyfikacjach 6950 jest na poziomie 6970

2 razy o tym pisałem :P
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Postprzez Gradik 03 Maj 2011, 18:43

O jakiej wartości zasilacz najlepiej zda się do zestawu z prockiem i5-2500K 3,3GHz oraz tym Asusowym Radeonem HD6950 2GD5? Oczywiście z zapasem na jakiś delikatny OC, szarżował raczej nie będę ;) Chodzi o to, że naciągam już i tak budżet rodziców i nie chcąć przeginać - chcę brać wszystko w miarę na styk. Tj. chodzi mi o to żeby nie brac powiedzmy zasiłki 600W kiedy starczy 500W, itp.
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Postprzez lamar 03 Maj 2011, 18:52

Gradik napisał(a):O jakiej wartości zasilacz najlepiej zda się do zestawu z prockiem i5-2500K 3,3GHz oraz tym Asusowym Radeonem HD6950 2GD5?

500W wystarczy :wink:
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Postprzez KaRi 03 Maj 2011, 19:13

floyd5 napisał(a):
KaRi napisał(a):floyd5, chyba 6970...

Jak patrzyłem po testach raz wydajniejszy jest 6950 raz Geforce 570 i są na dość zbliżonym poziomie.

Pierwsze słysze... Z tego co ja wiem to rywalem GTX570 jest 6970, nie 6950. 6950 wygrywa tylko w grach których ogólnie karty od 'czerwonych' są lepsze od tych od 'zielonych' (przykład to SCII\Crysis Warhead). Tak to GTX570 jest lepszy od 6950. Tylko jak i to pisałem w moiom bodaj pierwszym poście w tym temacie, po małych modyfikacjach, 6950 staje się pełnoprawnym 6970 ;) I wtedy gtx570 jest nieopłacalny po prostu.


Zasilacz wystarczy w zupełności coś w okolicach 500W, np. ten Seasonic z postu wyżej, bądź XFX Core 550W (chyba tańszy od SS a z tej samej 'stajni' produkcyjnej).

Obudowę to już wybierz Ty. Osobiście śmiało polecam VS-9 ponieważ ta obudowa zrobiła na mnie bardzo dobre wrażenie, jakością wykonania głównie ;)

Gradik napisał(a):Fractal Design Integra 500W (FD-PSU-INTEGRA-500) A co powiesz o tym?

To jest przemalowany Fortron APN 500W. Więc teoretycznie niższa seria za większe pieniądze. SS czy XFX będą lepszymi wyborami ;)
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Postprzez Gradik 03 Maj 2011, 19:28

Rozumiem, więc obudowa już chyba wybrana :)
Co do tego zasilacza, sprawa wygląda tak, że biorąc daną obudowę mam zniżki na takie i takie zasilacze, biorąc daną płytę głowną mam zniżki na takie i takie procki itp. itd. Chciałem to maxymalnie wykorzystać dlatego chcę się upewnić. Przepraszam, że co chwila wywalam z nowym pytaniem i zawracam Wam głowy, ale na prawdę nie chciałbym później z czegoś być niezadowolony, biorąc pod uwagę ilu ludzi zaangażowałem w pomoc i ile czasu temu poświęciłem :)
Btw. Do wyboru z tych "tańszych wybrańców" mam jeszcze Zasilacz OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular
Czy firma OCZ jest godna uwagi?
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Postprzez KaRi 03 Maj 2011, 19:31

OCZ tak, ale seria Fatal1ty nie cieszy się zbytnim uznaniem. IMO są to zwykłe przeciętniaki. Może podaj nam jakie masz te zasilacze ze zniżką, to się coś wybierze może :P
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Postprzez Gradik 03 Maj 2011, 19:42

Z 31 opinii na stronie ten zasilacz otrzymał 4.71/5. Czy ja wiem czy taki przeciętniak? :P Oceniają jako stabilny, cichy, posiadający odpowiednią ilość kabli + opcja wypinania, dzięki czemu nie ma zbędnego bałaganu.. no i te podświetlenie :oops: lubie takie pierdołki :D
Heh w sumie z takich w moim przedziale cenowym mam 3, reszta za słabe lub za mocne (700W):
- Zasilacz OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular
- Zasilacz Fractal Design Integra 500W
- Zasilacz OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W
Oczywiście jeśli będzie jakiś inny na stronie, a w podobnym przedziale i wyraźnie lepszy to nie musi to być jeden z tych tutaj.
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Postprzez floyd5 03 Maj 2011, 19:49

KaRi napisał(a):Pierwsze słysze... Z tego co ja wiem to rywalem GTX570 jest 6970, nie 6950. 6950 wygrywa tylko w grach których ogólnie karty od 'czerwonych' są lepsze od tych od 'zielonych' (przykład to SCII\Crysis Warhead). Tak to GTX570 jest lepszy od 6950. Tylko jak i to pisałem w moiom bodaj pierwszym poście w tym temacie, po małych modyfikacjach, 6950 staje się pełnoprawnym 6970 ;) I wtedy gtx570 jest nieopłacalny po prostu.

Nie znalazłem gry w której 6970 jest słabszy od GF 570, a z 6950 bywa różnie i tu się zgodzę, że zależy od tego którego producenta "gra bardziej lubi" :wink: Zresztą obaj się zgadzamy ze 6950 jest najlepszą propozycją, a inne i tak nie mieszczą się w budżecie więc skończmy offtop :wink:

Z zasilaczy ja bym proponował Zasilacz OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W
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Postprzez KaRi 03 Maj 2011, 19:50

No czyli 260zł na zasilacz jesteś w stanie dać?
W tej cenie moim faworytem jest jak już tu było wspomniane: SeaSonic S12II-520

Jak się uprzesz to ten OCZ też by mógł być. Aczkolwiek 450W na linii +12V (ciągnie z niej proc, grafa, dyski, wiatraki itd.) w zasilaczu 550W to dośc przeciętny wynik. Dla porównania, ten Seasonic ma 520W a na +12V 480W, co jest rewelacyjnym wynikiem ;)
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Postprzez Gradik 04 Maj 2011, 20:37

Chyba mnie przekonaliście :)
Napisałem mail do morele.net i okazuje się, że nie posiadają i już chyba nie będą posiadać tego Asusowego 6950 2GB DDR5... W ofercie mają tylko podobnego Asus Radeon HD6970 2048MB z tym samym chłodzeniem i innego Asusa Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 (256bit). Czy ta druga karta Asusa jest o wiele słabsza, głośniejsza, mniej wydajna?

MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II/OC A co powiecie na tą? :)
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Postprzez KaRi 04 Maj 2011, 21:41

No 6970 mógłbyś mieć te 300zł taniej... :P
To zwykły referent więc ciszy i chłodu od niej nie oczekuj... ;)
MSI jest ok, ale nie odblokowuje się niestety TFII. TFIII i owszem ;)
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Postprzez Gradik 04 Maj 2011, 22:33

Chyba poważnie się zastanowię nad tym TFIII, tyle że musiałbym kupować go gdzie indziej niestety, bo w morele.net jest niedostępny. Ahhh jak ten Twin Frozr bosko wygląda :oops: Można napisać, że ASUS ATI Radeon HD6950 2048MB < MSI Radeon HD R6950 Twin Frozr III 2GB ??

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Postprzez KaRi 05 Maj 2011, 16:30

Biorąc pod uwagę plusy i minusy myślę, że chłodzenia są bardzo porównywalne. DCII jest 3 slotowe co stanowi jego minus (dla niektórych tylko na szczęście ;) )
Tak czy siak nie kupujesz karty w morele tak? Czyli wybierz taką która Ci się lepiej widzi, z obu będziesz zadowolony :P
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Postprzez Gradik 05 Maj 2011, 18:56

Tzn. powiem tak. Dziwnie odpisali mi na moją wiadomość, informując, że produkt jest niedostępny, kiedy ja to widze na stronie :? Spróbuję napisać mail tak, żeby otrzymać taką wiadomość jak chcę, czyli konkrety, konkrety...
Mówisz, że aż takiej różnicy pomiędzy nimi nie ma? Ja ciągle pamiętam, że chce jak najbardziej zaoszczędzić i mimo, że schrupałbym tego Twin Frozr III to jeśli cudów nie sprawi to nie będę sie na niego tak napalał ;) 3 sloty zajęte to dla mnie raczej nie problem, jeśli karta dobra to mogą i być 4 sloty, byle by pod wpływem ciężaru komputer nie przewracał się na bok :) Jeśli ten 1 slot więcej ma zapewnić ciszę i wydajne chłodzenie to nie widzę żadnych przeszkód.
A jeszcze pytanie mam, może ktoś mnie oświeci. W tej płycie głownej Asrock'a P67 PRO3 jest jedno złącze PCI Express 2.0 x16, czyli te do którego podpinam grafikę (tak myślę :P) A te pozostałe 3x PCI (Express 2.0 x1) to do czego służą? Tam można wpiąć dźwiękówkę? Bo gdzieś na początki tematu, zdaje się KaRi pisał, że jeśli planuje zakupić tą płytę to nie mam planować dźwiękówki pod PCIE (którą zajmuje grafa, jak się domyślam). Więc dlaczego opis pokazuje:
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- 3x PCI Express 2.0 x1
- PCI Express 2.0 x16
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Postprzez KaRi 05 Maj 2011, 19:07

Cieżar nie robi. 3 sloty nie przeszkadzają to możesz brać. TFIII Ci się podoba możesz brać. Obie karty są rewelacyjne i na zbliżonym poziomie we wszystkim. Weź tańszą i po problemie ;)

PCI Express x16 to wyjścia na karty graficzne, niektóre dźwiękówki
PCI jest na przykładowo tuner TV, czy sieciówkę, ale też karty dźwiękowe są też na zwykłe PCI.

Pisząc tamto chodziło mi o to że DCII zajmuje 3 sloty. Czyli PCIE + 2 następne w dół (jak dobrze pamiętam, to są to dwa PCI zwykłe)

A co do strony itd. to często jest tak że karta figuruje na stronie, ale fizycznie to już w sklepie jej nie ma... niestety :-|
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Postprzez Gradik 05 Maj 2011, 19:18

KaRi napisał(a):A co do strony itd. to często jest tak że karta figuruje na stronie, ale fizycznie to już w sklepie jej nie ma... niestety :-|


W jakim sensie? W takim, że już wcale nią nie będą dysponować?
KaRi napisał(a):Pisząc tamto chodziło mi o to że DCII zajmuje 3 sloty. Czyli PCIE + 2 następne w dół (jak dobrze pamiętam, to są to dwa PCI zwykłe)

Kiedyś w moim kompie miałem zamontowaną dźwiękówkę (póki sie nie zjarała) w slotach, które przypominają te białe z zdjęcia Asrockowej P67. Oczywiście o ile dobrze kojarzę i jest to ten sam rodzaj slotów, to znajdują się w bezpiecznej odległości od chłodzenia DCII :)
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