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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 06 Cze 2011, 22:26

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Witam.
Chciałbym sobie kupić nowy procesor, bo ten którego aktualnie posiadam jest za słaby jak na moje potrzeby. Jak już zacząłem, chce sobie kupić nowy procek, ale nie wiem jak się do tego zabrać? Od czego zależy to czy procesor będzie u mnie działał itp.? Teraz mam taki procesor (screen z Mój komputer>właściwości) :
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Na pewno muszę podać jeszcze jakieś parametry kompa, żeby było wiadomo jakie procki u mnie będą działać, ale nie wiem jakie, dlatego proszę pisać co mam jeszcze podać odnośnie mojego kompa.
Procesor chcę kupić koniecznie Intel'a i chciałbym, żeby mi ktoś napisał jakie procesory będą u mnie działać? Jeśli ktoś się za bardzo na tym nie zna, to proszę o niewypowiadanie się w tym temacie.
Z góry dziękuję i pozdrawiam.
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 06 Cze 2011, 22:28

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Przeczytaj ten temat i napisz najlepiej całą konfigurację komputera razem z marką i mocą zasilacza.
Ile masz pieniędzy do wydania ? Do czego używasz kompa ?
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 07 Cze 2011, 15:59

Ile mam pieniędzy do wydania? Hmm no tak w miarę żeby tani był, ale i tak będę se kupował z allegro. Kompa używam przede wszystkim do grania, stąd też pomysł na zmianę procka, bo mam sporo gier, w których muszę zmieniać grafikę na minimum lub średnią żeby móc se pograć... a wiadomo, że przy minimalnych ustawieniach nie ma prawie satysfakcji z grania.
Tu daje screen'a z opisem kompa z tego programu EVEREST Home Edition:
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Wypatrzyłem sobie taki procesor: E2220 taktowany zegarem 2,4 GHz
Wystarczyłby mi on do takich nowszych gier? A chyba można jakoś tam podkręcać procesory?
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 07 Cze 2011, 16:05

Powiem tak. E2140 mimo, że stary , można by dobrze podkręcić co zwiększyło by jego wydajność. Jeśli chodzi o gry, to w tym momencie lepiej wymienić tą kartę graficzną (GT7300 to już w ogóle dziadek) i dokupić 1GB ramu. Wymiana procesora na szybszy przy tej karcie graficznej na nic się nie zda, więc zabieg jest bezsensowny.
Zgadzasz się ?

Everest niestety nie wyświetla wszystkiego. Wklej mi proszę Raport z HWiNFO, tak jak jest opisane w temacie zanim-poprosisz-o-pomoc-w-tym-dziale-przeczytaj-vt70280.html . Ten zasilacz też by się przydał. No i dobrze byłoby jakbyś określił jakoś ten budżet, bo "niedrogo", czy "najtaniej" to pojęcia względne.
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 07 Cze 2011, 19:01

Nie wiem czy ten mój procesor nie był już kiedyś podkręcany, ale chyba nie, bo na Wikipedii pisze, że ten mój E2140 ma 1.6GHz. Z tym podkręcaniem to troszkę problem jest, bo kompletnie nie wiem jak to się robi. Kartę graficzną także chcę wymienić na jakąś Nvidii GeForce 512mb (chyba tyle wystarczy?), zna Pan jakąś dobrą i najtańszą? Co do ramu to nie ma chyba najmniejszego problemu, chyba nawet dziś będę miał kolejne 1GB :)
Tak więc poprosiłbym o baardzo dokładną instrukcję jak podkręcić procesor żeby przypadkiem czegoś nie popsuć :) No i przydałaby mi się nazwa najtańszej karty graficznej Nvidii 512mb.
To screen z tego programu HWinfo:
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Znalazłem w google identyczną naklejkę jak na moim zasilaczu (sprawdzałem 3 razy, wszystko jest tak samo napisane):
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 07 Cze 2011, 21:36

1. Jeśli chodzi o ram to spokojnie możesz dołożyć. Pamiętaj, żeby był to DDR2 max 667Mhz. Płyta obsługuje maksymalnie 2GB ram, także więcej już nie włożysz. Masz 2x512MB, więc dobrze byłoby wsadzić taki sam zestaw, ale jak dołożysz 1x1GB nie powinno być problemu. Pamięci nie będą działać w dual channel, ale aż takiej różnicy nie będzie Tobie robić.

2. Jeśli chodzi o podkręcanie procesora myślę, że ten poradnik jest całkiem dobry i powinien ci wystarczyć http://forum.pclab.pl/topic/197951-Jak-podkr%C4%99ci%C4%87-procka-poradnik/ - pamiętaj aby na bieżąco sprawdzać stabilność i temperaturę.

3. Zasilacz niestety do najlepszych nie należy i należałoby go dla bezpieczeństwa wymienić. Niestety jest pozbawiony potrzebnych zabezpieczeń, a jego moc jest za pewne zawyżona.

4. Teraz karta graficzna. Postaram się znaleźć najwydajniejszą, w miarę tanią i adekwatną do reszty sprzętu:
GEFORCE 8800GTS 320MB DDR3 320bit 169zł
GEFORCE 8800GT 512MB DDR3 199zł
GECUBE HD 3850 256MB DDR3 149zł
Sapphire RADEON 3870 512MB/256bit 165zł
ATI RADEON HD 3870 X2 1 GB DVI 199zł

Ten 3870 jest ciekawą ofertą.

Lojalnie jednak uprzedzam, że wymiana zasilacza byłaby bardzo wskazana.

No i najlepiej byłoby jakbyś określił ten budżet. To dużo ułatwia :)
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 07 Cze 2011, 22:16

Dzięki za te karty graficzne, popatrzę se takie i wybiorę najlepszą, a DDR3 będą działać?
Na procek i kartę grafiki mogę dać po 200zł. z allegro oczywista :) A bez wymiany zasilacza nie dało by rady? Bo nie chce mi się go wymieniać, ale chyba jak nie wymienię to lepiej procesora nie podkręcać, tak?
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Dobra, jeśli trzeba kupię też nowy zasilacz, bo widzę że nie są drogie. Ale jaki mam kupić? No i wiadomo, że potrzebny mi możliwie najtańszy, bo na to wszystko idzie kasa z budżetu 16-latka :lol:
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 07 Cze 2011, 22:25

Bez wymiany tego zasilacza, nie wymieniałbym karty graficznej na Twoim miejscu. Także procesor na razie zostaw w spokoju, podkręć go tylko.
Jeśli masz 200zł na kartę i 200zł na procesor to weź RADEON HD4850 512MB PCI-E 4850 DDR3/256bit, a resztę przeznacz na zasilacz.
Zasilacz na przykład taki :
FORTRON 400W HLN 80zł
lub ode mnie w 100% sprawny MODECOM MC-400ATX 2.0 PFC 80zł
Podałem akurat tanie i dobre. Można by droższe i lepsze kupić jeszcze, jeśli miałbyś życzenie.
W promocji np. Chieftec 500W CTG-500-80P -GDA 160zł
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 07 Cze 2011, 22:47

Jeśli miałbym kupować z tych kart graficznych co Pan podał to chyba wziąłbym tą GECUBE HD 3850 256MB DDR3 za 149zł + ten zasilacz FORTRON 400W HLN za 80zł. Co do karty graficznej to 256MB DDR3 jest lepsze od np. 512MB lub 1GB DDR2 :?:
A do podkręcania procesora nie potrzebny jest nowy zasilacz?
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 07 Cze 2011, 22:50

Tak, jest lepsza. To też zależy od karty, ale na ogół i porównując karty wymienione wyżej to DDR3 jest lepsze od DDR2 i tym między innymi powinieneś się kierować.
Nieuk napisał(a): GECUBE HD 3850 256MB DDR3 za 149zł + ten zasilacz FORTRON 400W HLN za 80zł

:ok: i w porządku.
((Chociaż ten Modecom jest lepszy. Ale nie namawiam, żeby nie wyszło, że na siłę chce coś sprzedać. ))

Nieuk napisał(a):A do podkręcania procesora nie potrzebny jest nowy zasilacz?

z podkręcaniem, czy bez wymieniłbym ten zasilacz. Ryzyko zawsze istnieje, że coś się stanie, a po co się martwić, jak można kupić tego Fortrona i mieć spokojną głowę.

Nieuk napisał(a):Pan

Nie trzeba Panować ;)
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 07 Cze 2011, 23:13

Ok, to już na pewno wiem, że kupię tą kartę graficzną 256MB DDR3 i zasilacz Fortron. Jeszcze jedno pytanie z kartą graficzną, jeśli w wymaganiach gry jest napisane "karta grafiki 512 MB (GeForce 8800 lub lepsza)" to ECUBE HD 3850 256MB DDR3 jest lepsza?:)
I nie wiem czy na pewno procesor podkręcać, troszkę się boje, że go popsuję albo sam się spali czy coś po podkręcaniu... A jeśli miałbym już go podkręcać, to mniej więcej ile MHz mogło by przybyć? Jak się sprawdza stabilność i temperaturę procka i co robić gdyby się przegrzewał? :)
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 07 Cze 2011, 23:18

Nie jest lepsza. Te 8800, które wymieniłem są wydajniejsze od tego 3850. Na twoim miejscu, już niewiele droższego, wziąłbym tego 8800GTS 320 lub HD3870 512.

Nikt Ci nie powie ile podkręcisz procka, każdy egzemplarz wypada inaczej.
Nieuk napisał(a):Jak się sprawdza stabilność i temperaturę procka

Stabilność na przykład programem OCCT, temperaturę już wspomnianym HWiNFO.
Nieuk napisał(a):i co robić gdyby się przegrzewał?

"odkręcić" ;)
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Nieuk 07 Cze 2011, 23:28

Czyli ta karta graficzna:
Palit hd3870 512MB DDR3 256bit
jest mniej więcej jak ta 8800?
Ona w ogóle będzie u mnie działać?:)
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Kupno nowego procesora

Postprzez Mikou@j 07 Cze 2011, 23:30

No tak można powiedzieć. Będzie działać bez problemu.

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