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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez diterus 24 Lut 2011, 17:31

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Dzień dobry. Pilnie poszukuję do mojego leciwego kompa (13 lat) pci z usb2 (mam usb1). W sklepie vobis panowie polecili mi kartę LogiLinka (chip NEC) i zapewnili, że będzie chodzić na mojej płycie ms 6712 i chipsecie via 8235 (KT 400). Everest podaje także numery innych chispetów via: 8235 - 8237 - 8251. Niestety, po zainstalowaniu karta Logi Linka powyłączała mi wszystkie porty usb1 i okrągłe, dotychczas działające na moim komputerze. Doświadczonych informatyków proszę o radę i odpowiedź na pytania:
1) czy jeśli zainstaluję np ten kontroler http://www.emarket.pl/kontrolery-i-adaptery-%28usb-sata-firewire-raid%29/gembird-kontroler-pci-do-usb-2-0-%284-1%29-via-upc-20-4p/p-c0409223 , to komp będzie działał stabilnie?
2) czy obojętne jest jaki kontroler usb2 zainstaluję, ważne jednak, aby był to kontroler via??

Wiem, że można by eksperymentować, ale ze względów finasowych (zakupywanie, wysyłanie, dojeżdżanie samochodem etc) wolałbym mieć pewność, co do podjętej decyzji. A tutaj musi mnie ktoś bardziej doświadczony ,,oświecić".

Czekam z niecierpliwością na odpowiedź. Z wyrazami szacunku. Diterus
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez Sh@m@N 24 Lut 2011, 22:47

1. Nie powinno grać roli, jaki kontroler na PCI wybierzesz. Nie musi być na zasadzie "VIA - VIA".
2. Po zamontowaniu kontrolera powinieneś przeinstalować sterowniki płyty głównej i ZAINSTALOWAĆ sterowniki karty. Po restarcie powinno działać bez problemu.
3. Jeśli zawiesza na etapie BIOS - to możliwe, że karta jest uszkodzona. Jeśli na etapie windows - uruchom system w trybie awaryjnym (F8 przy starcie systemu), zainstaluj sterowniki, zrestartuj i uruchom już w trybie normalnym. To byłby błąd systemu, nie karty/komputera.
4. Jeśli masz taką możliwość - spróbuj montażu w innym gnieździe PCI. Zdarzają się sytuacje (zwłaszcza na starszych płytach) kiedy pary slotów korzystały z tych samych przerwań systemowych i urządzenia w nie włożone sprawiały problemy. Możliwe jest też, że slot jest o prostu zabrudzony, a karta nieprawidłowo odczytywana.


Karta jako taka powinna funkcjonować i na jeszcze starszym komputerze - miałem podobną na płycie z KT 133.
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez diterus 25 Lut 2011, 01:38

Dziękuję za rady Sh@m@N. Co znaczy stwierdzenie ,,przeinstalować sterowniki płyty głównej"? Jestem zielony i nie kumkam. Proszę o podpowiedź. Siemanko.
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez Sh@m@N 25 Lut 2011, 10:09

1. Zgodnie ze specyfikacją płyta POSIADA USB 2.0 - Specyfikacja
2. Sterowniki do niej to VIA Chipset 4in1 - do pobrania ze strony MSI - Sterowniki
Należy je rozpakować (wszystkie) i uruchomić setup.exe. Po instalacji zrestartuj komputer.
3. Masz oryginalnego windows XP i zainstalowane service pack co najmniej 2?
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez diterus 25 Lut 2011, 17:16

Fragment z Everesta:
--------[ Urządzenia USB ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ Masowe urządzenie magazynujące USB (StoreJet Transcend) ]

Właściwości urządzenia:
Opis urządzenia Masowe urządzenie magazynujące USB
ID urządzenia 152D-2509
Klasa urządzenia 08 / 06 (Mass Storage)
Device Protocol 50
Producent StoreJet Transcend
Nazwa StoreJet Transcend
Numer seryjny 1FD102617FFF
Supported USB Version 2.00
Current Speed Full (USB 1.1)

[ Mysz Logitech USB Wheel (USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse) ]

Właściwości urządzenia:
Opis urządzenia Mysz Logitech USB Wheel
ID urządzenia 046D-C00E
Klasa urządzenia 03 / 01 (Human Interface Device)
Device Protocol 02
Producent Logitech
Nazwa USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
Supported USB Version 2.00
Current Speed Low (USB 1.1)

Nie jestem biegły w angielskim, ale wydaje mi się, że porty USB to jedynki, ale wsparcie usb jest jak najbardziej dla 2. Wczoraj informatyk był i stwierdził konflikt LogiLinka z płytą. Po jego wyjęciu wszystko wróciło do normy. Kilka nowych portów by się przydało, ale bez uszczerbku dla już działających.
Sterowniki odinstalowałem, kontroler włożyłem, sterowniki zainstalowałem (po każdym restart) i .... to samo! Na dodatek nie mogłem nawet wejść do biosu. Przyznam, że mam już dość ciagłego manipulowania przy kompie... ale cieszę się, że mnie wspieracie i nie da sie ukryć, że liczę na dodatkowe Wasze pomysły. Dziekuję i pozdrawiam. Diterus

Dodano Dzisiaj, 16:19:
Mam oryginalnego windowsa xp sp3....
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez Sh@m@N 25 Lut 2011, 22:17

Zatem przypuszczalnie to karta jest uszkodzona. Jeśli masz możliwość - przetestuj ją na innym komputerze (u znajomego) - dla potwierdzenia.

Z drugiej strony - to MSI, królują w mieszaniu w przerwaniach. Włóż kartę o PIERWSZEGO lub CZWARTEGO gniazda licząc od gniazda karty graficznej.

W BIOS - zakładka "Integrated peripherals"
OnChip USB Controller – ustaw wartość “6 USB Ports”.
USB Legacy Support – ustaw wartość “All Device”
W zakładce “PC Health Status” – spisz wartości CPU/System Temperature, CPU/System Fan Speed, Vcore, +5.0V,+12.0V, -12.0V, -5.0V, Battery, +5V SB.

Spróbuj także instalacji "VIA USB2.0 Patch (Under WinXP+SP1)" ze strony MSI. Jest to co prawda stosowane w przypadku XP z SP1, ale być może pomoże.

Portów podobno jest 6, a w przypadku uaktywnienia trybu 2.0 wystarczyłby zwykły hub USB.
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez diterus 25 Lut 2011, 23:34

Sh@m@N, WIELKIE podziekowania za wszystkie rady. Co to jest zwykły HUB USB??? Dziś kartę zareklamowałem pozytywnie w vobisie. Teraz ( ? ) zamówie inną z chipsetem via 6212 i zastosuję sie do Twoich rad. Faktycznie portów jest 6 (4 z tyłu kompa, 2 z przodu). Przesyłam wydruk z Everesta:
--------[ Czujnik ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Właściwości czujnika:
Typ czujnika Winbond W83697HF (ISA 290h)
Nazwa płyty głównej MSI MS-6712
Stwierdzono otwieranie obudowy Tak

Temperatury:
Płyta główna 32 °C (90 °F)
Procesor 49 °C (120 °F)
WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 33 °C (91 °F)
SAMSUNG HM500JI 28 °C (82 °F)

Wentylatory:
Procesor 2848 RPM

Wartości napięć:
Napięcie rdzenia procesora 1.62 V
+3.3 V 3.26 V
+5 V 4.81 V
+12 V 12.40 V
-12 V -12.36 V
+5 V podczas wstrzymania pracy 4.92 V
VBAT baterii CMOS 3.34 V
Debug Info F ED FF FF
Debug Info T 32 49 255
Debug Info V 65 02 CC B3 CC 1F DF (01)
Debug Info I 60 6012

Sh@m@N, bardzo prosze o podtrzymanie kontaktu, gdyż Twoje rady są bezcenne. Proszę o potwierdzenie, moje usb to 1, nie 2. Jeżeli są to 2, to zakup nowego kontrolera faktycznie mija się z celem. Dlatego proszę o potwierdzenie. Pozdrawiam.
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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez Sh@m@N 26 Lut 2011, 20:45

Hub USB 4 porty I-Box - to takie drobne urządzenie.

Płyta MSI MS-6712 była produkowana w kilku wersjach:
KT3V - tą wykluczam, ma chipset VIA KT333
KT4V / KT4V-L v.1.0 - o tą najprawdopodobniej chodzi, ma chipset VIA KT400
KT4V-L v.1.1 - ma chipset VIA KT 400A.

Wszystkie te płyty mają USB 2.0 - zatem niezależnie od wersji powinno zasuwać.
Everest nie zawsze pokazuje prawidłowe dane - jeśli możesz, to odczytaj nazwę i wersję z laminatu płyty głównej. Przy okazji odczytaj markę i moc zasilacza. To ostatnie jest WAŻNE - bo kto wie, czy problem z obsługą USB 2.0 nie jest związany z zasilaczem. Gdyby tak było - to jakakolwiek karta wpięta w port PCI (obojętne - USB czy dźwiękowa) będzie powodować problemy (zawieszenie systemu). Hub usb w takich warunkach również nie pomoże - może zasilać co najwyżej klawiaturę, pendrive lub mysz, ale podpięcie np. odtwarzacza mp3 czy mp4 to już zbyt duże obciążenie.

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Jaki kontroler usb2 do starego komputera?

Postprzez diterus 26 Lut 2011, 22:20

Sh@m@N, stary zasilacz wymieniłem na markowego Ocz 400 (poprzedni miał 350W), wentylator na procesorze tez wymieniłem (wiadomo, starość nie radość), zmówiłem nową kostkę http://allegro.pl/kontroler-pci-4-1x-usb-2-0-chipset-via-i1459141994.html , zobaczymy co sie będzie działo... za Twoją rada , popróbowałem wszystkiego i ... pasztet. Kolega-informatyk, po szybkosci transferu stwierdził usb1. Stery na różne sposoby odinstalowałem i zainstalowałem. teraz poczekajmy do nastepnego mojego meldunku. Za wszystko dzieki. Jesteś super !!!! Pozdrawiam. Diterus

Dodano Dzisiaj, 15:14:
Melduję Szanownemu Koleżeństwu, że kontroler przyszedł. Sklep zamiast chipsetu via, przysłał mi nec'a. Po zainstalowaniu wszystko śmiga cacy. Sprawne są klawiatura (łącze okrągłe) i myszka (usb). Mniemam stąd, że Wasze rady okazały się wielce pomocne i skuteczne. I za to dziekuję z całego serca. Miło jest wiedzieć, że w pobliżu znajdują się życzliwi i mądrzy fachowcy.
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