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Postprzez LOL3K 16 Gru 2005, 02:04

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Witam.

Mam 2 dyski.
Jeden 30 drugi 120gb.
Do dziś miałem system tylko na dysku 30. Dziś zainstalowałem system na dysku 120gb i chciałem zrobić format na dysku 30gb. Jednak przy końcu formatu pisze, że nie da się sformatować partycji systemowej. Moje pytanie nasówa się samo: jak sformatować partycję 30 gb i zrobić partycją startowa partycje 120 gb.

Teraz mam C=30, D=120. A chce zrobić na odwrót.
W każdym przypadku jest to system Win XP Pro ;]


Z góry, thx. Pzdr.
Ostatnio edytowany przez LOL3K, 16 Gru 2005, 10:28, edytowano w sumie 1 raz
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Postprzez gooffy 16 Gru 2005, 03:04

napisz jeszcze jakie byś chciał systemy zainstalować!
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Re: 2 systemy

Postprzez Romcio 16 Gru 2005, 11:15

LOL3K napisał(a):Witam.
.... Jednak przy końcu formatu pisze, że nie da się sformatować partycji systemowej....


Na 100% dyskiem startowym jest stary dysk. W czasie uruchamiania komputera odczytywane są informacje z głównego rekordu startowego (MBR) a następnie z rekordu startowego aktywnej partycji (stary dysk). Jest na nim także kilka pliczków w katalogu głównym (stary dysk), które przekierowują rozruch na nowy dysk. I te dane są chronione przed skasowaniem przez system. Formatowanie starego dysku = skasowanie tych danych (główny rekord startowy w zasadzie pozostaje bez zmian - dlatego też w przypadku zaatakowania tego rekordu przez wirus nawet formatowanie dysku nie pomaga). Skasowanie ich = brak rozruchu. Nowy dysk jest dyskiem rozruchowym. Fajne określenia - ale żywcem wyjęte z fachowych pojęć okienek XP. Ręcznie nic nie zrobisz. Musisz przeinstalować system od początku. Ale zanim to zrobisz musisz:

1. Zamień miejscami podłączenie dysków (mówię o taśmie 80 żyłowej IDE lub taśmie Serial) lub w BIOS-e zmień kolejność bootowania napędów. Lepiej wybierz pierwszą opcję.

2. Rzecz w tym aby nowy dysk był napędem, który ma możliwość startu przed starym dyskiem.

3. Oczywiście instalując okienka XP z CD-ROM musisz określony napęd optyczny stawić jako pierwszy, a nowy dysk tuż za nim.

4. Jeżeli w stacji dyskietek nie ma żadnej dyskietki, to kolejność tej stacji nie ma znaczenia.

5. Po takim zainstalowaniu systemu Windows Xp w zasadzie nie będzie rościł żadnych pretensji do dysku 30 GB.
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Postprzez MUTOPOMPKA 16 Gru 2005, 16:55

a możesz inaczej....

Wystarczy jakimś programem do partycjonowania dysku zrobić tak:

z tego 30GB dysku zdezaktywować partycję aktywną...
Na tym 120GB aktywować partycję aktywną...

Potem włożyć instalkę winXP i na nowo "umieścić" sektor rozruchowy...

Bez żadnego "mieszania" i wszystko będzie grało!
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Postprzez JarekMk 16 Gru 2005, 17:57

Albor prosciej przestaw zworki na dyskach...
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Postprzez @Marcin 16 Gru 2005, 18:00

Jarek napisał(a):Albor prosciej przestaw zworki na dyskach...

To system i tak odpali sie z dysku na którym jest partycja aktywna (rozruchowa) więc to Ci nic nie da....
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Postprzez MUTOPOMPKA 16 Gru 2005, 19:01

Martin napisał(a):To system i tak odpali sie z dysku na którym jest partycja aktywna (rozruchowa) więc to Ci nic nie da....

Nie zupełnie... Jak masz 2 HDD, na których są partycje aktywne, czyli np.

1 HDD 30GB -> 1 partycja (aktywna)
2 HDD 120GB -> 1 partycja (aktywna)

Odlalać będzie ten, który będzie jako MASTER... W sytuacji gdy mamy 2 HDD ustawione jako master na kanałach PRIMARY i SECODARY startować będzie zawsze PRIMARY MASTER!!!!
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Postprzez LOL3K 16 Gru 2005, 19:56

Mutopompka, a możesz napisać jak dezaktywować partycję C?

Partyjcję D aktywowałem dając PM na nią w Partiton Magic -> Zaawansowane -> Ustaw jako partycję aktywną.

Ale nie mam pojęcia jak dezaktywować C.

Aha i jeszcze jedno: aktywując partycję D, dałęm w biosie, aby bootowało z IDE-1 (de facto dysk 120 gb, ale nie jestem pewien) i wyskakuje, że ide-1 OK i BRAK PLIKU NTLDR.
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Postprzez MUTOPOMPKA 16 Gru 2005, 20:13

LOL3K napisał(a):BRAK PLIKU NTLDR

I to jest właśnie brak plików "startowych" windowsaXP. Teraz tylko odpal instalkę winXP, wejdz w tryb odzyskiwania (konsola) i wydaj następujące polecenia:

FIXBOOT, BOOTCFG. Do tego wystarczy skopiować ten plik (NTLDR) z CD: copy X:\i386\ntldr D:\, gdzie X: to Twoja litera napędu CD.

Po tym fakcie powinieneś mieć wszystko OK.

LOL3K napisał(a):jak dezaktywować partycję C
Nie jestem pewien, ale wystarczy zrobić z niej partycję logiczną, lub po prostu usunąć z niej partycję i założyć nową...
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Postprzez LOL3K 16 Gru 2005, 21:18

Ustawiłem C jako dysk logiczny

Teraz tylko odpal instalkę winXP, wejdz w tryb odzyskiwania (konsola) i wydaj następujące polecenia:


To mam wejść i uruchom u cmd i to powpisywać, czy jakoś inaczej?

Napisz mi jak możesz dokładnij z tym fixboot, bootcfg i kiedy ten plik skopiować.

[ Dodano: Dzisiaj o 2:47 ]
Wchodzę w tą konsolę, loguje się na dysku D, wpisuje fixmbr i daje, żeby zapisało nowy rekord MBR i pisze, że zapisano nowy główny rekord rozruchowy na dysku ficznym /Device/Harddisk0/Partition0.

Wpisuje fixboot i przechodzę na partycję D poprzez /fixboot D: i zapisuje nowy sektor rozchowy na tej partycji.

Następnie wpisuję /bootcfg /rebuild i w tym momencie szuka i znajduje mi 2 systemy Windows.
Pyta się czy dodać C do listy rozruchu - daje NIE.
Pyta się czy dodać D do listy rozruchu - daje TAK.

Wprowadź indentyfikator ładowania: puste
Wprowadź opcje ładowania systemu operacyjnego: puste

Daję EXIT i gdy włącza się od nowa system bootując z IDE-1, pisze, że NTDRL is missing.
Mógłbyś dokładnie napisać jak wykonać prawidłowo te kroki co podałeś, aby śmigało jak należy.
Dodam, że teraz przy wyborze systemu mam zamiast dwóch Windowsów XP, także 3 puste pola na które wchodzi to czym system wybieram, strzałką w górę.
Podejrzewam, że jest to spowodowane, że probowalem 3x zmieniać wg Twoich wskazówek i jak zawsze coś schrzaniłem. :P
Na początku miałem 2 opcje wyboru, teraz mam 5, w tym 3 bez nazwy.

Z góry dzięki za pomoc.

P.S.

A mógłbyś napisać do którego katalogu na D mam skopiować NTDRL z płyty?
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