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Postprzez rbm 24 Lis 2008, 18:43

reklama
Witam, mam zamiar w najbliższym czasie troche zmodernizować swój komputer bo niedomaga w nowszych grach.

Config mojego aktualnego sprzętu to:
Płyta główna: ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe
Procesor: Athlon64 3200+ (s. 9393)
Pamięć: 2GB DDR
Karta graficzna: GF 8600GT (sonic +)
Dysk: Samsung
Zasilacz: Chieftec 350W

Jako, że socket 939 jest przestarzały, wymiana procesora wiąże się z wymianą płyty głównej i pamięci ram.
Jak na razie wybrałem następującą płyte główną (s. AM2+)

ASUS M3N78

Pamięć operacyjną zakupie zapewne z firmy Goodram (bo są niedrogie).
Mam problem natomiast z wybraniem procesora. Czy lepiej pod kątem gier zakupić:
ATHLON 64 X2 6000+ czy PHENOM X3 8450

(na pytanie ile jestem skłonny przeznaczyć na modernizację odpowiedź brzmi: jak najmniej)

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Re: wymiana podzespołów bazowych

Postprzez Babi016 26 Lis 2008, 18:03

Lepiej dwójajko. Tylko jeden problem. Zasilacz może nie wystarczyć. Twój komp "niedomaga" głównie przez kartę graficzną. To że kupisz nowego proca mało zmieni. Ja mam 8600GE i już mam problem z nowszymi tytułami ( Crysis warchead na średnich bez aa itp). Co byś nie kupił i tak mało da. jeśli jednak coś wybierzesz to patrz na www.esc.pl
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Re: wymiana podzespołów bazowych

Postprzez rbm 27 Lis 2008, 17:56

Jesteś pewnien, że zasiłka nie wystarczy? ;)
obliczając kalkulatorem ze stronki: http://extreme.outervision.com
wyszło mi, że powinien spokojnie wystarczyć na Ax2 6000+ ;)
jednak w świetle ostatnich faktów (w tym również zapotrzebowanie na moc) chyba jednak zainwestuje w 5200+ (ma dobry stosunek wydajność/cena wg nvision.pl) i pobawie sie w małe oc :twisted:
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Postprzez Babi016 27 Lis 2008, 22:37

Ja mam Chieftec 400W. no i tak ledwo ledwo. Napiecia sie wahają. A ja mam 5600+ i co do kręcenia. Powiem tyle ze idzie. Bez zmiany napięć podniosłem do 6GHz w miare stabilnie na oryginalnym chłodzeniu. Nie podnosiłem wiecej bo bałem sie o zasiłke.Jedyne co bym zmienił u mnie to karta. Bo już nie wyrabia i to mocno (choć far cry2 na max bez aa i hdr na 1280x1024); Choc procka zmienisz to i tak mało to da. Ja na twoim miejscu brał bym płytę z chipsetem AMD. Niby bardzo dobrze się prezentują.
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Postprzez rbm 28 Lis 2008, 00:13

w sumie ja modernizuje kompa pod Silent Hill: Homecoming :P bez dwóch rdzeni do tej gry sie nie podchodzi. Co do grafy to prawdopodobnie też wymienie xD może na jakiegoś radka hd 4670, niedrogi i wydajny
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Postprzez kajtekjr 28 Lis 2008, 10:50

Babi016 napisał(a):Bez zmiany napięć podniosłem do 6GHz w miare stabilnie na oryginalnym chłodzeniu.


Możesz dać jakiegoś screena? Bo nie mogę uwierzyć ze wyciągnąłeś 6 GHz (!!) z tego Athlona w dodatku na BOXowym chłodzeniu ....
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Re: wymiana podzespołów bazowych

Postprzez lemur 28 Lis 2008, 11:07

kajtekjr napisał(a):Możesz dać jakiegoś screena? Bo nie mogę uwierzyć ze wyciągnąłeś 6 GHz (!!) z tego Athlona w dodatku na BOXowym chłodzeniu ....


Kolega po prostu podał "podliczoną sumę mocy" [6GHz] jako 3GHz x2 rdzenie. 5600+ ma 2.9GHz domyślnie, więc bez zmiany napięcia podnieść o 100MHz to nie problem :wink: . Wątpię żeby procesor nawet na wodnym chłodzeniu poszedł na 6GHz na rdzeń, jeszcze AMD :roll: .
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Postprzez Babi016 30 Lis 2008, 15:09

oczywiście że chodziło o 2 jajka. Procek ma 2800 tak wiec na jednym rdzeniu podniosłem o 200. Najlepsze są temperatury:
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to jest akurat przed podkręceniem. Już dawno dawno temu ale teraz temperatury nie różnią się zbytnio. Temperatura w "kaście" nie przekracza 32*C (32 w stresie normalnie 29): a proc i mobo jak widać. Choć wątpię w te temperatury. Aha te stwierdzenie "jeszcze AMD" zgadzam się mniej wydajne (bo o to ci zapewne chodzi) ale cenowo to intel może nasikać bo do sprzętu z niższej półki za chole*e nie pchał bym intela. Każdy ma przeznaczoną kwotę na komputer. Czasami wzięcie intela wiązało by się z wzięciem gorszej karty graficznej co w konsekwencji sprowadzi się do niższej wydajności całego sprzętu. (płyty główne pod socket intela są droższe niż porównywalne pod socket AMD, no i cena samych proców.) A nie oszukujmy się czy tam będzie włożony Intel 2,6GHz czy AMD 2,8 to w grach różnicy nie będzie. (przynajmniej niezauważalna dla laika). Tak więc jeżeli chodzi o intela to "Tak" ale przy sprzęcie za około 2500-3000 i wyżej.
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Postprzez kajtekjr 30 Lis 2008, 16:09

Babi016 napisał(a):oczywiście że chodziło o 2 jajka. Procek ma 2800 tak wiec na jednym rdzeniu podniosłem o 200

Nie wprowadzaj chłopaka w błąd że wyciągnąłeś 6 GHz, bo to nie prawda. Prędkości obu jajek sie nie sumuje ;) Z 2.9GHz, podbiłeś do 3 GHz więc naprawdę mizernie .. :P

Babi016 napisał(a):Aha te stwierdzenie "jeszcze AMD" zgadzam się mniej wydajne (bo o to ci zapewne chodzi) ale cenowo to intel może nasikać bo do sprzętu z niższej półki za chole*e nie pchał bym intela.

Bardziej chodziło o to że procesory AMD X2, przynajmniej te wyższe modele >5000+ pracują już blisko końca swoich możliwości, więc nie ma szans na osiągnięcie 6 GHz na jeden rdzeń.. ;) Co do drugiej części Twojej wypowiedzi to można kupić E5200 który dobrze się kręci, kosztuje ok 280-300 zł i łyka po OC AMD X2 6400+@3500 MHz ;) I wcale nie trzeba kupować płyty za 600 zł żeby kręcić... Wystarczy jakaś płyta z chipsetem P35/P45, tańsze to wydatek 350 zł.. ;) A żeby wykręcić do 3500 MHz 6400+, czyli jakby nie patrzeć tylko o 300 MHZ, trzeba mieć dużo droższą płytę główna z bardzo dobrym układem zasilania ;)

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Babi016 napisał(a):Tak więc jeżeli chodzi o intela to "Tak" ale przy sprzęcie za około 2500-3000 i wyżej

Oj, za 2k już można złożyć sprzęt oparty o Intela o wysokiej wydajności... ;) ..A w tej cenie łyknie on sprzęt oparty o platformę AMD ;)
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Postprzez lemur 30 Lis 2008, 19:45

Babi016 napisał(a):stwierdzenie "jeszcze AMD" zgadzam się mniej wydajne (bo o to ci zapewne chodzi)


Chodziło mi o podkręcanie że AMD ma mniejsze osiągi niż Intel tak więc powiedziałem że wątpię żeby dało się tyle podkręcić, na dodatek że jest to Athlon który jak zapewne wiadomo ma gorsze osiągi OC od Intela. A z tym że AMD jest bardziej opłacalny pod względem cena/wydajność od Intela to się zgadzam, ale bez OC :wink: .
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Re: wymiana podzespołów bazowych

Postprzez rbm 01 Gru 2008, 23:11

Zdecydowalem sie na athlona 5200+

teraz nie jestem pewien płyty głównej :D czy lepiej brać

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Postprzez Dementor 01 Gru 2008, 23:20

W sumie obie płyty sa na rowni.Ale ja bym sie skusił na ASUSA

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Postprzez rbm 01 Gru 2008, 23:53

też myślałem raczej o tym asusie :)
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