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Postprzez Bambosz 02 Sie 2011, 00:54

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r0nn1n napisał(a):na forach ludzie pisza rozne glupoty

Ja bym raczej powiedział, ze sprzedawcy mówią różne głupoty, bo na ogól nie mają pojęcia o sprzęcie. :P
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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 07:10

KordiEJ napisał(a):Po pierwsze, temu zasilaczowi zostanie jeszcze zapas, po drugie w zasilaczu nie liczy się tylko moc ! Ważne jest także jak trzyma napięcia na danej linii ! Nie jeden 450-500w zasilacz może być lepszy niż inne o wyższej mocy, a szczególnie XFX, to bardzo dobre zasilacze, jeżeli ludzie na forum się nie znają to dlaczego jakoś ludzie co chwilkę proszą o pomoc ?? Praktycznie nikt komu była udzielona tutaj pomoc nie narzekał, mi także pomagano i ze wszystkiego jestem zadowolony, a ten sprzedawca to jakiś burak jest jak daje 600 w zasilacz do takiego kompa, on chce tylko kasę z ciebie wycisnąć i tyle ! Masz jakąś siekierkę, toporek ? Tak ? No to świetnie, idź i w bij sprzedawcy w głowę, nie za to że Ci źle polecił tylko za tą jego ekstrawagancję.

PS. Poza tym tak jak napisałeś, ten niemarkowy 500W jest dużo zawyżony niż w rzeczywistości, więc w praktyce zmieniasz na mocniejszy :) Pozdrawiam :)

:ok: :ok: :ok: satysfakcjonujaca mnie wypowiedz.

bylem za tym co mi polecal ten sprzedawca, ale szczerze zdziwilo mnie kiedy powiedzial o zasilaczu 600W :D

Dodano Dzisiaj, 07:15:
Bambosz napisał(a):Swoją drogą - gdzie kupujesz? Może jeszcze jakieś modele warte uwagi by się znalazły. :)

kupuje w sklepie komputerowym u mnie w miescie, a co do innych modeli to mozecie mi cos polecic jeszcze procz tego XFXa,
najlepiej do 200zl (XFX 450 tyle kosztuje) albo do max 250zl :)

znalazlem cos takiego:
http://allegro.pl/zasilacz-ocz-stealthxstream-2-500w-80plus-sli-atx-i1727050900.html 196,99zl z przesylka ale ten sklep sprzedajacego jest ode mnie 30 min drogi(miasto obok) takze 176,99 by mnie to wyszlo :)
i rowniez OCZ http://allegro.pl/ocz-modxstream-pro-500w-2xsli-modularny-fv-rybnik-i1744382316.html
jaka jest roznica pomiedzy StealthxStream a ModxStream? i ktory bylby lepszy do mojego zestawu?
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Postprzez floyd5 02 Sie 2011, 09:40

r0nn1n napisał(a):jaka jest roznica pomiedzy StealthxStream a ModxStream? i ktory bylby lepszy do mojego zestawu?

ModXStream ma modularne (odpinane) kable. Raczej nie wykorzystasz wszystkich kabli, więc można nie podpinać tych niepotrzebnych, dzięki czemu masz porządek w obudowie. Uważam XFX za lepszą konstrukcję, ale też może być.

Co do zasilaczy ogólnie to liczy się:
- stabilność napięcia - im mniejsze wahania napięcia tym lepiej, szczególnie przy OC.
- zabezpieczenia - w przypadku np. przepięcia w sieci elektrycznej dobry zasilacz spali się, bubel oprócz tego zabierze coś ze sobą np: płytę główną, kartę graficzną, albo w ogóle pół komputera.
- natężenie prądu na liniach, najważniejsza jest 12V (może mieć więcej niż jedną linię, ale wtedy nie do końca można sumować ich moc). Ogólna moc ma tutaj drugorzędne znaczenie (niemarkowe zasilacze najczęściej nawet się nie zbliżą do wartości na nich napisanej). Dla przykładu XFX dzięki mocnej linii 12V dostarczy karcie graficznej i procesorowi mniej więcej tyle samo energii co podany przez Ciebie OCZ.
- sprawność - im większa tym więcej energii jest przetwarzane, a mniej idzie na straty - głównie w ciepło.
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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 10:03

Wiesz zalezy mi zeby bylo jak najtaniej, wczesniej pisalem ze niby nie mam ograniczenia budzetowego ale teraz sie to troszku zmienilo :P
oraz nie zalezy mi na odpinanych kablach, uwazam ze to co znajduje sie w obudowie nie ma wygladac tylko dzialac i byc wydajne.
Takze zalezalo by mi aby kosztowalo to do ~200zl a ten OCZ moge miec za 176,99zl (mysle ze to dobra oferta cena/jakosc)
a nie wiem ile XFX bedzie kosztowal w tym sklepie, na allegro najmniejsza cene jaka znalazlem to 179,00zl z przesylka 194zl, czyli te +/- 20zl wiecej.
Takze jestem rozdarty miedzy tym XFX Core 450W a OCZ StealthxStream 500W, czyli platforma Seasonica vs. Fortrona :D:D:D
A i jesli mozesz polec mi jakas dobra tania plyte glowna pod tego Phenoma II X4 955 BE.

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Postprzez KaRi 02 Sie 2011, 11:50

Jedna sprawa, StealthxStream czy StealthxStream 2 ? Ponieważ to ważne, bo pierwsza rewizja lubiła piszczeć, skrzeczeć i takie tam :P Także jak chodzi o pierwszą rewizję to IMO wybór jest jasny, druga jest pozbawiona tych wad i śmiało można ją kupić. Także jeżeli to SXS 2 to już sobie dowoli wybieraj co chcesz :P

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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 12:27

KaRi napisał(a):Jedna sprawa, StealthxStream czy StealthxStream 2

Tak StealthxStream 2 :)

KaRi napisał(a):Co do płyty. Tania to znaczy? MSI 870-G45, ASrock 770 Extreme, Asrock 870 Extreme3...

taka do 250-300zl
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Postprzez Bambosz 02 Sie 2011, 12:35

r0nn1n napisał(a):kupuje w sklepie komputerowym u mnie w miescie

Wodzisław Śląski? To masz tam Alsen. :)
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Postprzez floyd5 02 Sie 2011, 12:39

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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 12:49

No tam mieszkam ale pochodze z Rydułtow i zawsze tam sie zaopatrowalem w czesci do kompa:
no i tam chcialem kupic:
procka Phenom II X4 955 BE ok. 450zl
plyta Asus M4A78LT LE AM3 760G DDR3 ok. 240zl
pamiec 2x2GB GOODRAM za ok. 100zl

i chcialem dac w rozliczeniu:
procka Athlon X2 5000+ 2,6GHz
plyta Asus M3N78-AM AM2+
pamiec 2x1GB GOODRAM
i za to wszystko mialem dostac 250zl

no i w rozliczeniu mialo wyjsc doplaty 500zl
sprobowalbym sie rozejrzec po innych sklepach ale boje sie ze nie wezna moich starych czesci :/

Dodano Dzisiaj, 12:54:
a i da rade w tych kwotach wziecie czegos z intela? moze jakiegos Quada, bo chcialem 4 rdzenia dlatego iz wychodzace teraz gry raczej wymagaja 4 rdzeni albo inaczej lepiej chodzi na 4, przyklad GTA IV, czy moze wziasc cos z intela/amd 2 rdzeniowego ?
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Postprzez Bambosz 02 Sie 2011, 12:59

r0nn1n napisał(a):a i da rade w tych kwotach wziecie czegos z intela?

Raczej nie, ten Phenom jest ok. No i on ma 4 rdzenie przecież. :)
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Postprzez KordiEJ 02 Sie 2011, 13:11



Sam posiadam, krótko mówiąc bardzo dobry zasilacz, podkręcałem procesor i kartę na nim i wszystko gra więc możesz go brać, ale to już od Cb zależy :) Co do intela to możesz zapomnieć, Quady to przestarzałe procesory, Socket 775 wszedł ładnych parę lat temu, te procesory to według mnie totalna klapa, to już lepiej wziąć jakiegoś Dual Core i go kręcić, Phenom II x4 955 BE ma odblokowany mnożnik, więc kręcenie go to pestka (nawet ja dałem rade a byłem kompletnie zielony), do niego można wziąć płytę obsługującą buldożery gdyby Ci się po premierze zachciało któregoś z nich, poza tym, Quad który dorównuje x4 955, kosztuje koło 1000 zł, i nie mają takiego potencjału w podkręcaniu, poza tym co by nie mówić to jest stare !! Pod płytę do Phenoma na AM3+ wciśniesz Athlony, Phenomy, Buldożery, a o polityce Intela za dużo mówić chyba nie trzeba, nie zmieścisz się cenowo z dobrym intelem jak chcesz 4-jajowca, możesz jeszcze wziąć jakiegoś procka na Sandy Bridge, i3 przykładowo, ale to jest dwu rdzeń. Co prawda dorównuje Phenomowi, ale to jak już tam uważasz. Pozdrawiam ;)
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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 13:15

czyli z tego sklepu http://www.alsen.pl jaka wybrac plyte glowna do max 300zl?
a i jakos nie widze tam zeby mieli Phenomy II x4 955 BE :/
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Postprzez KordiEJ 02 Sie 2011, 13:32

No to musisz zamówić z neta albo wziąć jakiegoś innego sklepu, poza tym drogo tam jak nie powiem co.... Znajdź jakiś inny sklep co masz blisko i podaj nazwę to tam się coś znajdzie bo w tym za bardzo nie ma, poza tym brak Phenoma II x4 955 jest trochę dziwny, ten procesor jest praktycznie w każdym sklepie.
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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 13:40

KordiEJ napisał(a):poza tym drogo tam jak nie powiem co....

wlasnie myslalem ze tanio bo w tym alsen 2x2GB DDR3 GOODRAM za 86,59zl
a w tym sklepie u mnie w Rydułtowach za 100zl.
KordiEJ napisał(a):No to musisz zamówić z neta albo wziąć jakiegoś innego sklepu

za bardzo nie ma innych sklepow :/ewentualnie w Rybniku http://sklep.4ucom.pl
no chyba ze ze stron typu esc.pl tylko ile by to wyszlo z przesylka? :/ a Ty jakie znasz inne tanie sklepy prowadzace wysylke?
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Postprzez Bambosz 02 Sie 2011, 13:50

r0nn1n napisał(a):ile by to wyszlo z przesylka?

Ja placilem 15zł, czyli fortuna to nie jest, oszczedzisz sporo wiecej. :)
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Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 13:58

Wyglada to wszystko niezle ale i tak musze poczekac do 10-tego, oraz wszytko bedzie zalezec od tego czy uda mi sie sprzedac stary sprzet bo jesli nie to bede zmuszony zamawiac w tym sklepie u siebie :/
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Postprzez Bambosz 02 Sie 2011, 14:14

r0nn1n napisał(a):a jakas plyta bez USB3 i SATA3? bo nie potrzebuje tego.

Tanszej i rownie dobrej raczej nie znajdziesz. Dalem ja, poniewaz ma ona juz AM3+ i w przyszlosci mozesz do niej wlozyc nowy procek. Nie wiem w czym przeszkadza USB 3.0 i SATA 3.
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Postprzez KordiEJ 02 Sie 2011, 14:16

Dlaczego ?? Przecież u Cb nie ma tych części więc musiałbyś wziąć droższe, nie rozumiem twojego toku myślenia, ale to twoje pieniądze.
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Amd phenom ii 955 be, gainward gts 450 128bit 512 -zasilacz?

Postprzez r0nn1n 02 Sie 2011, 14:29

ale chodzi o to ze u mnie mam mozliwosc wziecia za rozliczeniem, sprzedawca powiedzial ze za moj stary procek, plyte i ram da 250-300zl czyli wyjdzie mnie to z 500zl doplaty a tak musialbym placic te 934zl a stare rzeczy beda lezec, no chyba ze uda mi sie to sprzedac bez zadnego rozliczania.
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Amd phenom ii 955 be, gainward gts 450 128bit 512 -zasilacz?

Postprzez KordiEJ 02 Sie 2011, 21:23

A więc polecam coś takiego :

Intel CORE i3-2100 3,1GHz - 436,90zł
ASRock P67 PRO S1155 P67 4DDR3 - 346,17zł
GOODRAM DDR3 4GB (2x2GB) 1333MHz - 86,59zł
XFX Core 450W 135mm 80+ SLI PSU - 207,90zł

Razem: 1077,56 zł

Wydajnośc na poziomie Phenom II x4 955, mimo że to dwu rdzeniowiec, jakby Ci za jakiś czas nie starczyły te dwa rdzenie (w co wątpie) to możesz na tą płytę zamontować i5 albo i7, z tym nie będzie problemów. Wiem że drogo ale jak odejmiesz to rozliczenie twoje to chyba Ci na te części starczy?? Wiesz możesz po prostu zamiast tego 955 wziąć 970 którego w tym sklepie mają, czy masz na to pieniądze to odpowiedz już sobie sam, ten 970 jest jednak zupełnie nie opłacalny, drogi i nie warty ceny jak dla mnie, lepiej weź już ten zestaw Intela. :) Pozdrawiam i życzę udanego zakupu :)
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